Monday, 22 November 2010
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Hitler: A Pop Icon In India??
According to a June article written Zubair Ahmed of BBC News in Mumbai, Hitler is quite the pop culture icon for young Indians. Yes, it seems kind of odd and inappropriate but its actually true. Books and memorabilia on Hitler's life are being bought at a constant rate in India. The youth idolize and admire this hated figure, mainly because of his, "discipline and patriotism."Books, T-Shirts, bags, bandanas and key chains with Hitler's image are selling like hotcakes in this part of the world. Could you imagine walking down the street and seeing a dude with a Hitler bandana smoking a cigarette? Or a 16 year old girl with Hitler on her bookbag? It seems fake, but its actually true.
Most Indian teens say they don't approve of his policy with the Jews, but other than that he was, "an okay guy."
It makes some sense when you think of Hitler bringing Germany out of an economic depression, something most Indians think would be good for their country today. They feel a person with Hitler's leadership and discipline would be good for India.
The following is a direct quote from the article:'Dimple Kumari, a research associate in Pune, has not read Mein Kampf but she would wear the Hitler T-shirt out of admiration for him. She calls him "a legend" and tries to put her admiration for him in perspective: "The killing of Jews was not good, but everybody has a positive and negative side."'
Miss Kumari calls Hitler a legend like most Americans call Bob Marley a "legend". In my opinion, the youth in India are making a massive faux paz. Sure, Hitler was a crafty politician, but having a Hitler keychain is borderline disrespectful. In Hitler's case, his cons kind of outweighed his pros. Maybe India could use a good leader, but I think most will agree Adolf's business plan is, well, completely flawed.
Read for yourself: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8660064.stm
What do you think? Is this wrong or do they have a point?
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he will always be remembered no matter what soooo
That is odd, but every place has odd fads and what not.
What happens in India, stays in India.
Hitler was okay. whenever a state gets restricted, you get a yuga like that. It was actually really convenient because it keeps power in a row. Blonde hair and blue eyes is a rare combo. The people they were talking about had black eyes. Blue eyes were a marker for something if they are brown and if they are green, they are actually green.
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India wanted to go into kali yuga for some reason. they're the only ones who aren't part of the world. they're like a safety station.
Wow, I guess appreciating leadership skills makes sense, but I just wonder if they forgot about a man named, oh, I don't know, Ghandi! Maybe the youth are tired of the same-old same-old.
How is appreciating his leadership skills, or his anything for that matter, ever ok? He brainwashed his country, and those who did not listen he killed, and not to mention that murdered 11-17 million people! WTF is wrong with people nowadays. I do not care what country you are from or who you are, this is NOT OK!
Hitler is a pop icon everywhere. Usually, it involves making a fool out of him. Just look at all those Downfall parody videos out there. He may have been a monster, but Hitler humor is some of the best out there.
Making a joke of him and of the situation is saying that it is ok.
Appreciating a good leader? Sure, but like you said, I think his cons outweigh his pros. He's mainly remembered for the horror he induced, so I'm not sure why they would pick him as an icon in general.
I think given what he's done, it's horribly inappropriate, but it's their thing. Not like they're condoning the Holocaust...even if I don't agree with it, they 'get it' I suppose.
@WhenHateIsTheOnlyOption@xanga - Haha!
I'm saying this as an Indian... India's history curriculum is pretty lacking.
are you shitting me??? how can someone simply brush away the holocaust??
so its okay to call a mass murderer OKAY?? and everyone has a positive and negative side i dont think hitler had any bit of a positive side left in him after he decided to kill.why cant they stick with their tree-hugging ghandi, instead of trying to be cool and ending up looking like fools? typically indian.
do they understand if hitler could have found their country everyone would have been killed?
@pistolxgirl@xanga - Actually, Hitler already knew quite a bit about India through his friends in the German inteligencia. German scholars had long been studying Indian culture, and Hitler mis-appropriated numerous Indian (mostly Hindu) concepts and symobols -- for instance -- The Swastika and the term 'Aryan' are both of Indian origin and the Swastika is still used to this day by Hindus as a religious symbol.
@jazbajunoon@xanga - Who said Indians are ok with the holocaust? The article even mentions that most of the kids with the Hitler gear disagreed with the treatment of Jews by Hitler and the Nazis. You need to realize that for Indian youth, Hitler is just another foreign historical figure that has no real domestic significance. Its the same with American kids who will gladly use foreign figures on t-shirts and memorabilia without knowing their significance abroad or even their full histories (Che Guevara, Bob Marley and others being an example).
Furthermore, your comments about Gandhi (at least spell his name right) and Indians show more about your own personal biases than anything else.
I find it odd, but at least they agree that killing Jews is not okay. I think what people fail to understand is that the culture in India really respects self-discipline and patriotism - both arguably good qualities in a leader, and certainly needed in a corrupt and emerging country like India. I think what the kids fail to see is that it is these qualities they should be admiring, not the guy himself. There's a difference.
@Gobind - ghandi was far better than hitler why the hell would anyone abandon a home grown hero for a murderer? and the fact that they do disagree with his killing sprees why still idolize him? everyone is known for something ghandi for his peaceful independence movement, bobmarley for his music, and justified lyrics (and weed lol) and che for his marxist revolutionary movement. and hitler? what is he mainly known for?? the holocaust. its not okay to brush that under the carpet and wear t-shirts of the dude.think about it. why do people wear printed shirts of che or bob? in a sense it keeps their belifs, their ideology alive, and it tells everyone else that this person in oneway or another, supports (bob/or che. or whoever)'s beliefs. sporting hitler on book-bags and bandanas only suggests that etiher the person is ignorant or has no value for human life. and regardles of this being a movenet of the youth, and that almost all teens at some point in their life do wear t-shirts of someone somehow cool or important from the past, it leaves no excuse for indians wearing hitler, sure its a foriegn concept. truth be told, hitler has always been a foreign thing to me too, but i still know what he is responsible for, the whole world knows, the aliens on mars probably know too! and you dont have to know hitlers full history to discover if he was innocent or evil. when you idolize someone you just dont idolize one part of the person, or something positive about him/her. its the whole person, their whole life, and all their doings that you glorify, so they should seriously consider what they are doing.there is no legitamate excuse to put him on a t-shirt and pretend he is cool.
this is the biggest bs I have ever seen.
He's a pop icon in America too, people. TV jokes him all the time for various reasons. What's the difference?
A friend of mine does not have Xanga, but he wanted to reply, so I'm posting for him. If by any chance you read everything he has to say and would like to respond, he posted his response as a blog on this website: http://brainwipe.blogspot.com/2010/11/am-i-only-person-who-thinks-like-this.htmland you can comment there. Below is his comment.
Though I would never go as far to say I Idolize Hitler; I do have to say that I can understand this phenomena. Like it or not, Hitler was absolutely brilliant! There is no way around that. His methods could have used some improvements and yes mass genocide is never good. But whether that's the case or not, Hitler still managed something that hadn't even been attempted for years. He expanded a little, economically depressed, demilitarized country into an Empire seemingly over night.
Now for all of you people out there who are too simple minded to realize this, and want to point the blame for every single bad thing that happened in WWII on Hitler. Please, either shoot yourself, or take a history lesson. For those of you who don't know, the Allies knew of Hitlers plans (not right away of course, but definitely before the war broke out) and what did they do? Nothing. In efforts to "avoid another war" the Allies appeased Hitler and let him keep pushing the limits a little further and a little further, until eventually the only remedy was to declare war against him.
The Holocaust. I'm against and disgusted by the Holocaust just as much as the rest of you, however I tend to see it in different eyes in the aspect of Hitler being a Pop Icon. Millions and millions of Jewish people were degraded and killed in the most humiliating ways possible, they weren't even treated like humans. All of this at the hands of Hitler. But apart from that, what about Hitler is so different from any other (dare I say) world leader? Dare I be more risqué and say, how is he so different than the Pope? Or God?
The amount of Jewish people killed under Hitlers dictatorship is nothing compared to the amount of other religions who were killed in "the will of God". These "infidels" or in today's terms, "sub-humans" were a plague that needed to be taken care of. In fact a popular term around the time of the Crusades was "To kill an infidel is NOT murder, Tis the path to heaven". So tell me, what is so different about that, to the Holocaust?
Hitler did the same thing any other disgruntled World Leader would do. Take the United States for example. Depending on your stance on the subject that is 911 it is very comparable to Hitler. Terrorists attack the trade centers, and the president declares war against his enemies. And they're still over there 9 years and counting.
Germany is absolutely destroyed after WWI and is blamed for the entire outbreak, even though it was caused by Serbian rebels assassinating Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand. After the war is over, Germany is forced to pay restoration fees too all of the countries that were damaged by the war, they are forced to assume the blame for the war and are forced to demilitarize the entire country leaving them completely vulnerable to attack.
After WWI comes the Great Depression. For everyone, but Germany feels the effects even more. Until Hitler comes around. He designs an affordable car and offers it to anyone that follows him. This creates jobs and sparks a fire in the German economy. He continues cons like this and using words to manipulate the vast majority of the country until he becomes the leader of the country. The first thing he does as leader of the country is outlaw elections, Germany is now a dictatorship. Using this power he eventually re militarizes the country and starts the conquer of the enemies that wronged his country.
A lot of you probably don't want to admit it but Hitler helped the rest of the world too. Without the start of the second world war, who knows how long the depression would have lasted! With the start of the war came an vast influx in jobs. Not only that but with all the men away at war women started to have a place in the work force. Which in case you haven't noticed is still in place today because after WWII the social norms were changed so much that society just couldn't handle reverting to the way it was before.
Whether you want to see it or not, Hitler did vast amounts of good for the world. Maybe it wasn't his intentions but they were the ramifications of HIS actions nonetheless! So in a place as war torn and poverty stricken as India it makes sense that they idolize a figure like Hitler. There hasn't been a leader like him since his death. He knew how to get shit done. Hitler was brilliant. Crazy but brilliant. Did a lot of bad things, but it doesn't take away from his brilliance at all.
@jazbajunoon@xanga - Who said anyone is ignoring or abandoning GANDHI. Gandhi still has his place in Indian history and nobody is following Hitler instead of Gandhi. Those that do wear Hitler gear are doing it to be trendy, beacuse for them wearing a Hitler shirt is neat, much like wearing shirts of foreign figures is so popular with American youth. To Indians, Hitler is just another foreign figure. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Indians using Hitler as a pop icon.
"The killing of Jews was not good, but everybody has a positive and negative side."
LOL is it wrong that i laughed at that? i'm sure everyone has a negative side but i'm not so sure everyone is a homicidal maniac...although, maybe that isn't fair. hitler had a hard life. grew up poor and couldn't make it as an artist...how differently the world would've been if he had become a successful painter.
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