Monday, 07 June 2010
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Dropping The "Girlfriend-Bomb"
I have a lot of male friends. The majority of my close female friends also usually note that they too, have a lot of male friends. We are well aware that guys are usually thinking about sex, and have probably thought about us "in that way," not because we are like, goddesses or anything, but we find that guys usually just want to sleep with everyone. Anyway, my female friends and I have noticed that sometimes it can be tricky interacting with girlfriends of your male friends.A lot of times I find that when meeting girlfriends at first, they can be a little suspicious and competitive (I can't blame them, I know I get like that too). However, it is a little heartbreaking when another woman rejects you at first because you hang out with her guy.
I was recently hanging out with a male friend of mine (let's call him "Nick"), and we were talking about our mutual male friend (let's call him, "Charlie"). I recounted to Nick a story of one of the first few times I talked to Charlie.
The very first time Charlie and I spoke was after a show both of our bands had just played. It was a sexually charged night (we played a female-empowered burlesque night at one of my favorite venue/bars), so naturally I got drunk and was giving oral sex advice to anyone who would listen. Charlie seemed particularly interested, listening wide-eyed and smiling. "Thanks!" he gurgled as he packed up his gear, "my name is Charlie, by the way" (we shook hands).
Because of a combination of whiskey and Belgian beer I forgot that this had happened. My band mate reminded me the next day during our usual "what happened last night?" re-cap. "Heh,"she giggled, "you were in RARE form...remember that kid Charlie? He came up to me after talking to you, and said that you told him 'how to go down on a girl.'" "Oh shit that's RIGHT," I blushed, "oh well, you know, guys need to know about that stuff."
The next time I saw Charlie, he pounced on the opportunity to tease me about our first encounter. "Thanks, by the way!" he gleamed, "my GIRLFRIEND really liked that." He said the word "girlfriend" like he was trying to punch it into my skull with girlfriend shaped brass knuckles. I immediately felt weird."Why did he emphasize the word 'girlfriend' so much? Did he think that I was interested? Did he think that I was hitting on him when I was telling him about oral sex for girls?" I was embarrassed. Of course he thought I was hitting on him, who talks about oral sex if they aren't hitting on you? (<--Me. The answer is me, I do that).At this point in the story, I turned to Nick (Remember? I was telling this story to Nick), and said: "Just so you know, I am NOT interested in Charlie."
NICK: Why not? He's...heh, he's a handsome man!ME: Yeah he's cute I guess, but I have never wanted to, and I NEVER will sleep with Charlie ever. Ever. Like E-VER.I mean, it's always better to be safe than sorry, so I can't really blame him. And I understand that if a girl is all "this is how you eat box," you'd probably think she was asking you to eat hers. But in this case, I wasn't saying that at all, and the way Charlie emphasized GIRLFRIEND made me very close to hitting him.ME: I kind of hate how guys just assume we're super into them. I mean, I can kind of understand if a girl sort of brings up out of the blue that she has a boyfriend, because...NICK: Yeah, because guys...heh.ME: Yeah, but I was never into Charlie, so it was like...retarded.NICK: You should probably like, send out a warning to guys "don't drop the G-bomb."
And it's like that even when you're just trying to date a guy. Guys are trying to "do the right thing" by letting us know that they "just want to have fun," but I kind of hate that usually men don't really preface these conversations very well. When a guy just starts telling me about how he doesn't want to hurt my feelings, but he doesn't want anything serious right now, I usually want to vomit. It's insulting to just assume I have some serious deep feelings that need to be talked about. It's best instead, to say something like "I don't know if you are actually into me or not, but just so we're on the same page, I'm not looking for anything serious right now." It's similar to what I'm talking about here, it's frustrating when someone puts a staunch ending on something you weren't even into.
Also, the fact that Charlie apparently felt he needed to do that told me a few things about him:(1) He felt some anxiety (or unease) about our interaction that he may have seen as in need of some correction.(2) He did not pick up on my cues very well (in that he may have interpreted my speaking to him as flirting)
Ultimately, even though I have never felt anything but friendly towards this guy, I still felt weird when meeting his girlfriend. I was worried that he'd said that I'd hit on him, and that she would give me that look that women give when they are trying to say "he's mine, and you know it, back off."This girl seemed very nice, so it wasn't a problem at all (thank God). But I haven't always been so lucky.Do you think that guys want to be sexually involved with every woman they meet?
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Psh, no. As I'm getting older, I notice less and less of the "must tap that" mentality from the menfolk. (Old? Me? Noooo.) But I will admit that there are classier ways of mentioning disinterest than "punching it into the skull." :P
1. I think you're playing way to much into the way this Charlie character said "girlfriend." I am trying to think of the range of possibilities of saying the word "girlfriend" used in the context of that sentence...and I'm drawing blanks. i'm usually pretty good at this, too.
2. I think more so that men think of the possibilities of hooking up with that person, and not so much the act doing the dirty. of course, a lot of guys think they can get laid to anyone they cross paths with so in that case, that's about all they think about!
It's not surprising that he reacted that way. Appropriate, no. Surprising, no.
Men are hardwired to believe that every woman is in to them because they have little to lose. Their primal instincts drive them to believe that because if she is, he's just gained a woman to bear his children (instinctually. Not really.) and if she isn't, well, another one will somewhere else. By overestimating, he is more aggressive and basically casts out a bigger net.
Women though, we're wired to underestimate how many guys are interested in a relationship because sex is too much of a gamble. As women, we can only produce so many babies and being out 9 months bearing the child of a man who wasn't truly interested is a lose for us, not for him. The more we make them show how much they want us, the more likely they'll stick around and it turns into a win for us.
So it's all very primal. Very annoying too. :)
guys are stupid.
we should all just be non-intimate lesbians.pool parties would be a lot more fun.
and shopping.
As a human of a male variety I can testify that no, I do not desire to sleep with every single woman I come into contact with.
Only the attractive ones. Or the ones with a great personality. Or the ones who give me the slightest time of day. Or... well, I am a dude.
I want to try and stay neutral, but I think this is a very biased view through a typical female view. I'm a girl, and I'm very well aware that not all men want to be involved with every single female they meet. I believe that they might "size up" their interest in a member of whatever sex they're interested in, and it's based on their opinion, as well as the relationship, as to whether or not they want to pursue it romantically/sexually.
Also, I think girls do this just as much as men, we just don't like to admit it, or are "taught" to not admit it. I think we all, with exeption at both ends, naturally will consider most of the people we know at one point or another, as "potentials", not that all of these go anywhere.
And I think girls are just as capable of thinking that guys are really into us, it's not just guys -> girls. I don't really understand how it's insulting that someone is trying to be honest and say "I don't want anything serious". They're not a mind reader....how are they supposed to know how deep your feelings go? Wouldn't it be worse if you had deeper feelings and they treated them lightly?
Ending that rant....
No, I don't think guys want to be sexually involved with every girl they come across.
No
Especially not Every Woman
Especially not a Woman they don't have an Attraction towards.
Especially not those already in relationships (some do, I myself don't).
Not all guys see being sexually involved with any woman as some sexual conquest like a Tucker Max.
Is this really a big deal? You were talking about oral sex after all. I think it's understandable.
i find it hilarious that women here are commenting on this and saying that they know how men are "wired" or that we are all "stupid", etc. Seriously, if you arent a guy, then you have no idea what goes on in our heads so dont act like you know cause you dont. I am also going to assume that the same girls who think they have guys figured out get pissed off when guys make generalizations about them or think they have girls figured out. Its retarded. This is why females really shouldnt be allowed to comment on mancouch.
As for the OP - get over yourself. He wasnt into you but you talked about oral sex to him and yet you are sitting there thinking that you are some sort of victim of this whole "every guy wants me syndrome". Seriously get over yourself. He was prob a little weirded out and wanted to make sure that you knew he had a GF cause well you talked about oral sex to him. I dont go around talking about the techniques a girl should use when giving me head, esp not to a girl i just met. Also stop super analyzing it and move on with your life.
Who knows, maybe you are into him if you are this concerned.
this is a lot of thought put into something that you didn't even immediately remember the next day.
personally, i think you're reading too far into his use of one word. i would have said the same thing. it's just funny.
lol, this post was interesting to read =)
@edward12121 - What this guy said.
@edward12121 - agreed
I have a lot of guy friends, but it's never really like that. We all know that we're just friends and when we say things like that it's just joking. I'm just one of the guys to them. And honestly, this guy probably did have a girlfriend and you're just over-analyzing the situation.
Sure they all do! That's just testosterone! haha
Don't blame yourself or Charlie for the situation. He really did have grounds to say that, you know, since you were describing how to eat a girl's pussy - seriously, you think a guy can possibly hear a girl talk like that without geting turned on? Everything you've said is true, too though. You gotta look at things from both points of view.
Like I said, no one should be blamed, except alcohol. If nothing else, this makes a good anti-drinking propaganda story.
hahaha there's a boyfriend bomb and I drop it often, too. even if I don't think the person is hitting on me, sometimes I just happen to be saying something related that involves my boyfriend. one time I said "friend" instead of boyfriend because I didn't want to seem like I was shoving my relationship status in their face, but then I felt weird about it...
so I guess I drop the "boyfriend" bomb often hahaha
Nah. I'm a guy with a lot of ladies for friends and I don't want to sleep with them. It's a stereotype that men are only interested in sex.
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