Tuesday, 24 November 2009
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Is Jay-Z's "Empire State Of Mind" The New "New York, New York"?
I bring up this song which you've no doubt heard a billion times and gotten stuck in your head because of recent speculation that it might be the new "New York, New York." It's an interesting proposition. And, surely, if anyone who's out there right now is going to top Frank, it's going to be Jay-Z. He's already become a legend in his own time. He has no more contemporaries. So it is only fitting to compare him to other legends. Still, I'm not sold. Take a look for yourself:
Is "Empire State of Mind" the new "New York, New York"?[ed. - Note the above link is to a Gawker article this post was shamelessly ripping off]
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Comments (22)
Did you listen to the song? I think there is no doubt. What about the chick constantly saying "In New York.. In New York...?"
This is nothing more than you pedaling your favorite artist. I have no problem with that. I think Miley Cyrus is a legend, too.
I love that song, and I'm not even from New York. To say Jigga has no more contemporaries is not accurate, however. There are still plenty of rappers from the era in which he came up, just very few, if any, that have his stature.
Sorry. It's crap. Frank may have been a mediocre singer, but his stuff was better than this garbage.
LOL I read this article on Gawker.com (several weeks ago if I'm not mistaken?) and I clicked this link hoping I could call someone out on it but you called yourself out!! So props on that, and yes, this clearly is shameless promotion of your profile-picturesake, so I'm going to shamelessly plug myself (and you should also!! help a Xangstah out!!)
http://www.tripcrazed.com/716575182/do-you-have-to-be-in-an-empire-state-of-mind-to-love-empire-state-of-mind/
@schallerbrandon@xanga - @missneeraja@tripcrazed - I'm not just "peddling my favorite artist." Jay-Z is nowhere near my favorite artist. Have you people been here the last few days? I've been putting up a music video every single day. This is just another one. Except this time I was able to put a different spin on it than "I like this, do you like this?"
And frankly, the mere mention of Miley Cyrus in relation to Jay-Z is more than enough to revoke your mancard.
@nprospect - What is a man card? Last time I looked down, I saw something there. If you wish to provide an arbitrary definition of what it is to be a man feel free, but do so knowing that you limit the scope of your sex and cave to societal forces that consistently try to define man as they wish him to be, not as a free entity to like Miley Cyrus.
Wtf? People calling Jay-Z's music crap? Shiiiit, it's the end of the world.
Furthermore, it has Alicia Keys on the track. She's talented as hell. End of story.
Its the New York song of the 00' decade, and there will be another one...I love this song too much, and I'm just...so tired of rap haters, and NY haters...just shut up already.
@nprospect - my my, so defensive-I was just messing around, bro! but since you took it there anyway I may as well mention that maybe people think this is shameless promotion of Jay-Z because its too late to be bringing this up (as we both know tons of other media outlets ruminated on this exact subject weeks, even months ago) and it's too early to look back on the song and the media ruminations of it with that "remember when this person said this about this...we can now say this person was or was not right."
re-posting this theory weeks later and being like "do you believe it?" is a pretty weak reason for posting this video-unless of course, you just gratuitously wanted to post a video of an already overplayed song, hence, people's assumption that that's why you did it.
ps - how is "I like this, do you like this?" "new spin"? is that not implied with every post of something someone likes?
peace
@NikBv@xanga -
woah, mediocre? Is that just your own opinion or is that supposed to be a "fact"?
@Kaythan@xanga - It's a fact. Look it up on the internet.
What do you think?
I don't know what it is but I wouldn't listen to it again.
What? Am I actually supposed to be able to understand what he is saying?
You ripped this off from Dawn Yang, not The Gawker!
No i do not think it is the new NEW YORK. Not for me. I think Frank Sinatra's version was universal... i dont think it fit 100% into 1 single music genre. This song is R&B Hip hop, straight up. Nothing wrong with that, I just prefer Frank's.
it tries to be...
I mean it's a good song, but SERIOUSLY can you really imagine singing this after the ball drops new years in times square? NO. It's not as festive, nor is it a celebration of New York, it's more of a celebration of Jay-Z himself with lots of new york references... that's about it.
"I made the Yankee hat more famous than a Yankee can?" pretty bold statement (and completely false).
like all rap songs it's good until it's not. It'll fade away in relatively short time like all of Jay-Z's other songs.
This song illustrates a certain kind of hypocrisy of Jay-Z. He used to denounce Autotune. And then he feels like 'well, if you can't beat em, join em.' And now we have Autotune on the voice of Alicia Keys. Aren't you supposed to Autotune people who CAN'T sing? You're doing it wrong Jay-Z!
jay z will never beat out sinatra.
and this song is one giant inside joke. i don't get it.
Are we talking about Frank Sinatra? Legend? Replaced by ghetto fab Jay-Z?! I don't think so. Maybe to the urban crowd but this is rap crap.
I really like this song, and the collaboration with him and Alicia Keys is fantastic. It could be the new "New York, New York," I think... I like also how it's not your typical rap video with half-naked chicks dancing around a sports car while the rapper pretends he's a bad-ass. It gets so old so fast...
This song is cool & all but it can NEVER take the place of "New York, New York" by old Blue Eyes. Sorry :0/