Friday, 23 October 2009
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The Good, the Bad and the Way Too Nice!
After a recent post featured here about how some women want assholes in their lives and men don't want to date the female equivalent, I felt compelled to write about this. As a woman I will not touch on what men want; I don't have the necessary equipment either physically or mentally to say what men truly want. Not to mention the fact that there are many types of men, all of which, I'm sure, want different things.
What I do want to touch on instead is this attraction to assholes. I don't think it's quite correct. First, for simplicity I'm going to divide all men into three broad categories. Then I'll explain the categories and then I'll explain the "I'm into assholes" phenomenon.
First there are the bad boys. These are the assholes. Not only do they dress in a somewhat edgy way (whatever edgy is for the time period and location) but they also act edgy. They're mean, they're tough and they're downright sexy from a distance. They appear confident and dirty (in any way you want this to mean) and you want them, mostly because not only do you know, but everyone tells you that you shouldn't have them. And in the end you grow up and move on (or most of us do) and no longer lust after the appeal of the deliciously forbidden. Hey, Eve wasn't the only one who didn't listen to reason!
Second there are the nice guys. These guys are walking doormats. They are the stereotype. They bring you flowers, which is nice, they pay for your date, which is nice, they talk about you, which is nice, and they never excite you. This man is made to serve your every need and follow you around like a sad puppy! And he's boring. You don't lust after him, and sex is about obligation. He will provide for you, take care of you and bore you to tears. There is no challenge with this guy. There is no chase, or excitement or interest of any kind. He makes all the things you found exciting about other men mundane. Why? Because he's got absolutely no edge!
So there you have the two extremes: The guy that if you touch he's so edgy he'll cut you open and leave you to bleed, and the one so dull that you couldn't find the blade if you tried. So what's left?
The good guy! What's this mythical creature you ask? Well he's your perfect man, and yes they do exist. In all shapes and sizes. They are the Indiana Jones or Mufasa type of man. He's sweet and nice. He might bring you flowers or open the door. He will treat you with respect. But he is also strong and willful! He will tell you what you're doing, instead of always asking. He will not push, but will guide you as you walk with him. He will lead on the dance floor and in the bedroom, but he's not selfish. These guys aren't like Batman or Bond, they're not so bad that they leave you lonely and pining.
However, they're not like the 40-year old virgin or Luke Skywalker that you just want to put them out of their misery. The good guys have an edge, they can cut you, but they choose not to. They can be assholes sometimes, they can be slightly harsh, and slightly difficult at times, but they know when to stop. They understand the fine line. They also, deep down, care about and respect you. Even when they poke fun, or act harshly they do it with good intentions, and they do it with a certain level of decency and respect. Inside the crispy, tough shell is a caring man, who will be there for you. These men are a sword that chooses to stay sheathed unless they see a reason for a fight.
I think when it truly comes down to it most women want a good guy, or a good man. They want strength and guidance, and someone who will take care of them. But he will also listen and respect them and treat them well.
Do you think that these three types encompass most men fairly well?
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Comments (33)
I just want someone who rides a black Honda motorcycle.
I don't think "nice guys" are walking doormats, that stereotype is a pet peeve of mine. I'm not interested in dating jerks.Â
thank you! finally.. I'm so sick of the "poor nice guy" posts lately...its all about confidence and not letting other people walk all over you like so many "nice guys" tend to do.
I think each woman has their own taste... Luckily for me I've always been attracted to the good guy as opposed to either a bad/nice guy. I loathe girls who complain when their hearts get broken or that their relationship is too boring... I almost feel like, 90% of the time, that could have been prevented if you shopped around a little before you splurged/settled on said boy.
Generalization fail.
@QuantumStorm@xanga - seconded.
I'm way attracted to "nice guys." Who the fuck wants to be treated like shit?
If someone doesn't want somebody to serve their every need they are a fucking idiot. Think of the great head you would get.
If people don't know this info by now they better just shoot themselves.
@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Wanting a guy with a mind of his own that doesn't will him to become a slave to love doesn't make someone an idiot, it just means that they aren't interested in pansies.How do you have a strong intellectual conversation with a guy who's freaking out cause he failed you when he went to Starbucks and got you coffee with skim milk rather than with 2% milk?
@Lord_of_the_Pixie_stix@xanga - If he fucked up my milk order and didn't correct it I would ditch his ass. Everyone knows its fucking skim. Again, that is why nice guys are better. They will go back and get your fucking skim milk like a trooper.
I'm no angel. So whip me.
@Jackie - The point of the post was that there are guys who aren't walking doormats and who aren't jerks. They are the happy medium. Nice guys, really are too nice most of the time.
@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - You just enjoy seeing your photo on posts a lot, right? In real life you just love hearing yourself speak?
@FueltotheFire@xanga - Yes, I am amazingly gorgeous. I think everyone should switch their profile pics to me.
Honestly, this seems to be a fair assessment. Your categories are very similar to how I categorize men. Personally, I believe I fall into the "good guy" category. I despise "bad boys" and how they've ruined my gender's reputation. And I've seen "nice guys" get pushed around because they have no backbone.
My only complaint is that I don't think Luke Skywalker is a pansy, as you make him out to be. I would argue he's quite a strong character.
i just think most people don't know what they want. when they have one they want the other.
ohhh mann, i've dated all three kinds. the bad guy was just an ass, the nice guy was TOO nice and a major pushover, and now im with mr. good guy who...CAN be not so nice, but chooses instead to be patient with me. definitely lucky <3
@lot223@xanga - I second that.
If a girl's with a bad boy, she's sick of it and wants to be treated better and looks at all the nicer boys. She gets the nicer boy, gets bored, and remembers the excitement of the bad boy. She'll try the good guy, but he'll never be AS nice or AS edgy as she wants him to be sometimes... so she'll look at both the nice and the bad boy.
Between myself and my friends, I've seen all of those cases.
@mcmeister89 - agreed. i've seen it so many times it gets quite repetitive lol.
I don't think this post works at all. It's not three small categories, but a whole spectrum. You'd be better off rating guys from 1-10 on a jerk scale rather than just type 1, 2, or 3.
don't know about how well these generalizations really work, but i do have a way too nice guy in my life right now...who thinks he is edgy. he wants to be with me, and has for a long time, but there is just no physical or even emotional attraction for me. sorry, way too nice guy.
I guess labeling isn't just for cans, eh? I don't really know about all these generalizations for different types of men. I just date guys that can make me laugh. They get extra points for being a gamer or liking The Braves, but seriously, a sense of humor is something that I think most women require. If you have that you're in.
Its sad. i want a nice guy who wants a nice girl. and together we get our freak on
@algebraicdisco@xanga - agreed. No matter which guy you choose, you need a sense of humor. It's guys we're talking about. I've been with my bf for over 5 years and he's changed from being a "bad boy" to a "good boy" over the years. They can switch from "good boy" to "bad boy" too. Like you said it, just go with whoever makes you laugh.
I suppose? What a lot of men fail to see though is that most often, women DON'T KNOW the men they are interested in are assholes! There are 2 in particular that I thought were dream men! It wasn't until a while down the road that their true selves became clear and wow, was that a rude awakening.