Monday, 08 June 2009

  • The two basic stages to all relationships

    During my bouts of singledom, I'm able to observe all the self-involved couples around me - the ups, the downs, the manic "OMFG he's so perfect and hot and we're in love until two months from now when our mutually narcissistic fling ends!" summer hook ups.  While I consider myself personally oblivious to the point of potentially being a danger to myself, it's much easier to see through the BS that is dating from the outside as a conscientious observer.

    As a result of my tedious research and tireless hours of pointing and laughing, I've concluded that there are two basic stages to all relationships: Pre-Pussy and Post-Pussy.

    Pre-Pussy is the time in a relationship where the female holds most of the power.  You see, no matter how big your feminist balls are, every woman knows on some level that men want sex from her.  Therefore, you know that your sex, aka your vagina, is valuable.  Depending on the number and strength of your other attributes (education, personality, etc), you hold your vagina as a portion of your self-worth.  If you're only a pretty face, then obviously sex is your main selling point and the Pre-Pussy period is to your max advantage - you also stand the most to lose if things go awry.



        Right before she found out he was banging her roommate...



    Pre-Pussy, men are on their best behavior.  This is like an extended first impression.  The goal on some level, whether you want to admit it or not, is to get to touch the female's no-nos and in order to do that, good impressions have to be made and value has to be demonstrated.  From what I've read, it takes about seven hours of interaction for females to be comfortable enough to sleep with someone, if they aren't shooting for a one-night stand.  This could be an extremely long first date or stretched over a series of dates, usually taking a few weeks.

    Now, smart females don't blind themselves to a guy who has the potential to be an asshole Post-Pussy.  There are very distinct and obvious signs and habits that most men can't hide and may not even know that are signals to a woman that he's a waste of time or just friend material.  Then there are women who think their vaginas are magic and will somehow turn a Pre-Pussy douchebag into a Post-Pussy prince.  I mean, if a guy is in the Pre-Pussy phase and he's being a jerk, chances are he will be worse Post-Pussy and/or drop off the face of the earth.  The pussy is not a magic tonic ladies, so don't go all Madam Curie out there trying to reform men who "just need to be loved." 


      The road to hell is paved with gold.

    Depending on the level of value you place on your sex, Post-Pussy is usually the period in which men have the power.  If you know you have more to offer in addition to (fantastic, crazed animal) sex, then you don't really feel the shift as much and probably don't have as great of an attachment Post-Pussy.  Hopefully, you managed to restrain your hormones long enough to establish some sort of attraction beyond a mutual interest in trying that move you saw in a porno once and you're well on your way to a summer fling of your very own (assuming he isn't horrible in bed). 

    My roommate is a classic example of how blinding yourself during the Pre-Pussy phase is a fatal error for females.  She's dating a man seven years her senior - he's 35 - who has a five year old child with a woman he dated for nine years.  Never married.  For their first date he offered to meet for drinks and after fifteen minutes of her sitting at the bar after they were supposed to meet, he calls to ask where she is because he's sitting at a table ready to order dinner.  Two days later, he canceled their second date only an hour beforehand then calls her at 11pm that night and asks her if she wants to do something.  He's almost two hours late for their fourth date and offers no apology.



    Now, she seems to think he's super in love with her because they've gone out five times in the last week and he told her that he's never met anyone like her.  I'd believe that if they were actually going out to dinner but after their first meeting, their "dates" have been him bringing her over to his apartment to watch movies - she hasn't met his friends or co-workers and hasn't been seen in public with him since their first date ten days ago.  When she asked if she should sleep with him - which is a big indication that you shouldn't if you're asking your roommate for permission - I told her that he probably only asked to see her so much in the past week because he's trying to expedite the time investment until she feels comfortable enough to sleep with him.  Instead of one or two dates a week over a few weeks, he crammed in hours of face time during the week hoping it would pay off this weekend.  That wasn't what she wanted to hear so she headed over to his place for another "date."



    I'm pretty sure she slept with him earlier this weekend so now I get to wait for the Post-Pussy fallout where he falls off the radar and she just can't figure out why.  You know who will be expected to listen to the hours of weeping and self-pity?  Yeah, that's right - this sucker.

    So ladies, I beg you to do your due diligence before screwing that cutie with a booty.  If you're just looking to get an itch scratched, more power to you (use a rubber).  If not, value your magical vagina enough to feel a guy out so your poor friends and roommates don't have to listen to the consequences.*

    *We will gleefully listen to your tales of woe if he was really bad though :)

Comments (29)

  • TheBigShowAtUD@xanga



    you know, some men do get better once they know they can have it all the time.  some.  not many.

    but
    the tales of woe are awesome to listen to... as a single person.  it
    almost makes me want to stay single just so i always have that clear
    perspective on these things... but then i realize how crazy that sounds
    when i say it aloud.

    srs bsnss.




  • visualfusion@xanga

    @TheBigShowAtUD@xanga - well we are having a population crYsis .... /s

  • mitztaken1@xanga

    The crazeeeeeee thing is that some women can be done like that time and time again and STILL want to blame it on the men.

  • miis_cheung@xanga
  • mynameisblueskye@xanga

    Pretty cool observation. Haha!

  • Jerryx321@xanga
  • mIss_shOrtY503@xanga

    Nice post. I feel like an expert now. lol. XD

  • xjadersx@xanga

    I didn't have this with my boyfriend. We had a "Shy stage" then we had a "drunk stage" where we got down to business, now we have a "real love stage" which has been most of the relationship. I didn't sleep with him until we'd been together for 3 months, and hanging out every day. He didn't really seem to care, as long as we made out hah. Good times. Good times.

    I've never had one of these "Pre" and "Post" pussy relationships.

  • SurveysThatTakeupUrBOREDUM@xanga
  • MissPixieGlitter@xanga

    holy shit. no one should ever think his/her potential to provide sexual gratification is a part of self-worth. to deconstruct a relationship in terms of power and sex makes it seem so meaningless. some relationships do work that way, but that's nothing to which one should aspire.

  • ElliottStrange@xanga

    @MissPixieGlitter@xanga - Sex is a part of (almost all) relationships; even meaningful ones. The ability to provide gratification for your partner (vice versa) is often a vital part of a relationship so it only makes sense that it would be a factor in the self worth of many individuals.
    Unless keeping their partner satisfied is not important to that person - then it wouldn't matter I guess.

    As for the deconstruction of relationships well... sad as it might feel to some people, we're getting closer and closer to the point where we can quanity human interactions. They may not be as meaningful or genuine as we would like to believe.
    But I don't think we should feel devalued just in understanding our nature. There's nothing wrong with accepting the unfortunate truth and living happily despite it.

  • InsideAmylyn@xanga

    This was a great post, I just hope that there are some exceptions to this. Otherwise, are we all screwed? 

  • Coke0@xanga

    I kind of think this is common sense and I'm a little grossed out that you explained in such detail???

  • MissPixieGlitter@xanga

    @ElliottStrange@xanga - i'm not devaluing sex or the ability to provide gratification; i guess i didn't state that well enough. i disagreed with the claim that "you hold your vagina as a portion of your self-worth." this doesn't refer to the intimacy and shared gratification i think you're talking about. withholding sex (or one's vagina, i guess) to keep "pre-pussy" men in check is manipulative, hence the suggested power shift after the guy gets sex. i don't think sex should be about power. all i meant was that withholding "pussy" shouldn't inflate self-worth and "giving in" shouldn't deflate it.

    yes, these relationships are not as meaningful or genuine as i would like to believe. but i disagree that it's part of our nature, and i dont think that it's something to which we should aspire.

    just my opinion.

  • ElliottStrange@xanga

    @MissPixieGlitter@xanga - Ah, well that is a good clarification.
    Sorry to have misunderstood.
    Thank you.

  • yourblondeness@xanga

    this is pretty accurate based on what i've seen...there are some exceptions I guess...

  • MattFreakinNix@xanga

    .... none of this applies to me. I make it a point to not bullshit my gf, no matter the situation. I act the same as I did in the Pre Pussy stage. I think there is truth to this, but I think it mostly reflects how people are in any new relationship. You tend to act like it is a first impression. 

  • stumbling_sweetheart@xanga

    LOL. This is priceless in my opinion. Only because I know so many douchebag post-pussy guys as friends (which makes me sound like a complete idiot, but hey... don't judge) who when in the pre-pussy phase make themselves out to be gold. Though I have found through one of them trying his luck with me (apparently forgetting I actually spend quite a bit of time around him in "hanging with the guys" mode) that Post-Pussy is also very similar to the "I Just Realized I'll never Get any/I'm totally wrong in this situation" behavior - of course assuming we're speaking about one of the post-pussy a*holes. 

  • SarahCatharine@xanga

    My boyfriend and I were broken up for about a week, and we'd had about.. I dunno, four months of dating under our belts before that. Hadn't had sex yet. We got back together and started having sex, and I gotta say, our relationship has gotten stronger. We're much closer to each other, and we're both more affectionate towards each other, etc.

    So I guess I played the "Pre-Pussy" phase right. :)

  • AF_Kid@xanga
  • erahslover@xanga

    We need more stories like this that say the word pussy a lot. I might just bust the lotion out and read this again. Outloud.... and ssslowly....

    This post puts pussy*mmmm* on a pedestal. No pussy is worth putting up with a banshee if she so be the owner of it, so I don't see why women have this same issue... then go out for girls night out and blame it on us. If you're naive enough to not find the tell tale signs of a dude who just wants to bust some suds then i wish you lived near me so I could have a go. Women go on and on about how they are the superior race and much MUCH smarter than men will ever be... when in reality were all idiots running around with Napoleon complexes FRONTING. Period.

    Read enough women magazines and books and watch enough Doc Phil and "girl power" movies and you wake up thinking youre some impenetrable GURU of all things opposite sex.

    Is that why when a guy is a DICK to you from the start you gush all over him and date him over the nice guys and give up the snatch sooner because, hey "at least I know what im getting" encase dude bails after he smashes it? But the nice guy you'll wait around and make him earn it to make sure he's being nice because he's a nice person and its not just an act? Haha what kind of assbackwards shit is that? ahahha.

    GOD I love women. You all are like my favorite puzzle. Like playful/coy rubix cubes with hypnotic fleshy pink bits and annoying voices.

  • IndieVonRicarda

    This is pretty true. I don't think it necessarily means it's the woman's fault, she just needs to be insightful. However, this shouldn't be the case with men in the first place.But what can you do
    I guess. Dating is such an adventure... lol I say don't sleep with him until you're positive he won't hurt you - unless sex/nothing too meaningful is what you're looking for.

  • IndieVonRicarda

    @erahslover@xanga - that was a little offensive at first but towards the end I definitely agree. pretty ass backwards.

    But then again I guess it's how you MAKE SURE the guy is as nice as you think he is. With the dickhole guy, you already know what he is... and if he's cute, he's pretty much worthless after sex. Not that I'm some nympho or anything, but that's how I'm sure most women look at it.

  • mixedbabiesrock@xanga

    @erahslover@xanga - http://mixedbabiesrock.xanga.com/697529698/nice-guys/

  • erahslover@xanga

    @mixedbabiesrock@xanga - cute story, i saw that the first time it ran on dating ish or whatever it was. I can't say it isnt true hahaha.

    I hate to link man with beasts(because we have a conscious and can make decisions based on thought and intellect and love versus instincts and primal necessity) .. but I saw a special on Animal Planet show "Animal Planet's most EXTREME" and it showed nature's 10 most sneakiest animals... and there was this species of deer or some equestrian type deer-like animal where the two alpha males would fight each other brutally for what seemed like forever... only to show elsewhere within the same herd, the smaller buck sneaking sex from all of the mature dos while they were fighting...

    and it made me laugh, like.. is this guy the equivalent of the "nice guy" avoiding fights and staying close to the women and never getting out of line with the bucks... only to mate with them all in an orderly fashion sneakily.. making the next generation of deer have that "smart gene" versus the "brauny/tough" stereotypical alpha male gene.

    I(if i may be excused for my bluntness) can honestly say that Ive never in my life perused any women for the sole purpose of finding out what her insides feel like. But I have been in situations where it was understood that what was happening was purely physical...

    Does this make me a nice guy-strategist? I'll admit I don't really HAVE a stategy OR "game" as it were.. but ive been told by an ex-co worker of mine "Psshh, the fact that you don't play the GAME, is the way that you play the game... not using tricks and talking a girl up and not being obviousness that yes eventually you'd like to have sex with her, refusing to play along with women who play the game is in itself a way to play the game" ...took me a few mins to wrap my head around what she was saying. It made me feel sneaky.. even though this "style(or lack thereof)" of "non-hitting on" women isnt as easy as being the "alpha buck" ..its still effective. Human(and all) nature is perplexing/amazing.

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