Wednesday, 20 May 2009
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What's Manlier Than A Gay Guy?
According to popular, or at least to prejudicial and stereotypical belief, homosexual men can never fulfill the traditional definition of "manly."
Luckily for us, all we need is a few instances to prove that bigoted statement wrong. In no particular order...Manly Gay Men:
1) George Takei
Considering how a majority of society treats and views homosexuals, it's no wonder how many homosexual individuals keep their sexual orientation a secret. However, when they do come out, it's either a "Duh, we already knew" or "WTF O REALLY?!?!?" moment. Bathroom-stall-tapping Senator Larry Craig and George Takei both fall in the later category but for different reasons. Now for Takei, when he came out recently in 2005, I think we were all surprised because of how much he didn't fit the homosexual stereotype, which I am convinced doesn't exist (like pixies and dwarfs) and/or completely false (like creationism) and/or full of itself (like Sean Hannity). ZING!
In actuality, there are plenty of homosexual men who, with the exception of the attraction to other men, do not fit in the gay mold completely. These individuals usually don't go around in tight pants, have that "gay" accent, and are sometimes found even *gasp!* fit the stereotype for "manly."
For example, Takei is famous for playing the role of Sulu on the original Star Trek series and damn was that man manly. Need I really say why?
But really, the thing to remember is that homosexuality isn't a handicap and doesn't physically prevent anyone from achieving "manliness". A gay guy can easily go hunting, beat your ass in a bar fight, or simply save you and your friends from Klingons.
Manly.
2) Stephen Fry
Now before the days of "House," Hugh Laurie was involved in a lot of British comedy (what's that?) and most notably with his long time friend Stephen Fry. I seriously recommend looking up "A Bit of Fry and Laurie" on YouTube. It will be a good hour well procrastinated.
Anyway, because of Fry's comedic work not only with Hugh Laurie but also with Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) in the Blackadder series, up to this day comes to mind about this guy would most likely be "hilarious" or "original" or even "that guy from 'V for Vendetta.'"Despite being openly gay for quite a while, his sexual orientation is overshadowed by his other accomplishments. This has to do with the fact that one's sexual preference does not make the person. An affinity for a particular gender, whether it be for the same or opposite gender, is not the sole inspiration for an individual's personality or character.
3) Sir Ian McKellen.
Again, manliness just radiates from Sir McKellen. I really cannot elaborate more on this guy. For the longest time ever, until 1988, nobody could have guess that McKellen was gay. I can only imagine the hordes of female fans that just wanted a Sir Ian McKellen baby. It just comes to show that following the "Signs he is gay" checklist is a complete waste of time. But despite his orientation, not only does he continue play bad asses in film and on the stage, he is definitely a bad ass off the screen.For example, back in 1988 before McKellen came out to the public about his sexual orientation, he was involved in a movement against Section 28, the British amendment that would essentially ban the publication of material that favored homosexuality. At one point in this campaign, McKellen went to Michael Howard, a British politician in favor of Section 28, to try to convince him to change his stance on the amendment.
After Howard refused to withdraw his support, Howard then had the audacity to ask Mckellen for an autograph "for his kids." Being the bad ass that he is, McKellen agreed to the autograph but instead of a pleasant little note, he wrote, "Fuck off. I'm gay."
Bad ass.
4) Neil Patrick Harris
Doogie Howser. Riding a Unicorn. Can't get any more manly than that.
*cue holy hymn*
So, to answer the question posed by the title: what is manlier than a gay guy?
Answer: most likely not a straight guy.
Can gay guys also be manly guys? Why or why not?
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thank you for this! the other blog about "manliness" was so closeminded.
@authentic_black_dragon@xanga - Too much work. So you have my expressed permission to call me a "lazy ass," or something to that effect.
To keep things simple, I just stuck with the "I would never have guessed this guy to be gay if it weren't for him telling me so" standard.
If you're talking about the stereotype of manly, of course gay guys can be manly! Who can't be? Just follow the stereotype! ^_~
I'm not sure what other types of "manly" there are, but if it is something that is not innate, that is, that you are not born with, then anyone can be manly, especially a gay guy since he already is a man to begin with. All you must do is adapt personality, mannerisms, and etc.
Manly is a silly term anyways.
Regardless here's my two cents plus a dollar.
MILITARY - If women ( even though it took a while, and they're still not accepted everywhere ) and straight men can join the military, why can't homosexual men? If they are fully capable of preforming their duties, I don't see the problem. I really doubt that they'd come on to another guy while in the service, but who knows. I just don't see a homosexual guy acting 'girly' in the military. I also don't see a homosexual guy going, 'OOOHHH THIS IS SO SCARY! I need a hug.'
- I hope someone understands what I was trying to say.
STRAIGHT MEN - Lawl. Some of them act homosexual but they aren't. Some act more gay than gay men. Hell, I know some men who pamper themselves more than I do. Some people might see that as a homosexual thing. I don't see why. If a guy wants to make his nails, hair and skin look good, that's great. We all should take care of ourselves. A guy going to a spa does not equal being gay.
Anyways, I wish everyone would get over this whole homophobia deal and realize that you can't 'ungay' someone. If people think that making gays go to therapy and such for a while is right, you're wrong. Also, if they appear to be 'straight' after being gay, they're hiding it.
I don't know how this got into a creationism vs evolution debate either.
tl;dr
Manly is a silly term and people shouldn't be defined by it regardless of sexual orientation. Gays are just as manly as straight 'macho bench pressing ladies guys who look really super awesome'
/ rant and some irrelevancy
@John_of_the_bloomdocks@xanga - Yeah, like you're manlier than Sir Mckellen.
FIERCE entry!
"Answer: most likely not a straight guy. "
It's funny when someone ends an entry on destroying a stereotype with a heterosexist comment.
Actually, I didn't find those guys all that manly, and I wasn't particularly surprised when I heard any of them were gay. For one thing, effeminate guys can play manly just like manly guys can play sissy (referring to the acting, not saying they were faking it on the street). As far as people claiming to be shocked by someone coming out, some fans were surprised by Clay Aiken. I couldn't believe he actually had to say it.
But I will give you that gay does not make one effeminate, sissy, girly, etc., nor do I think "manly" is all that great.
@John_of_the_bloomdocks@xanga - you are in noway manly
Neil Patrick Harris on a unicorn is one of the most kick-ass images that can or will ever be produced. Period.
@John_of_the_bloomdocks@xanga - Of course gay men are the manliest men ever. They're always surrounded and indeed filled to the brim with men. Men, men, men everywhere.
@WhenHateIsTheOnlyOption@xanga - its the whole planet, love.
Whaaa? Neil Patrick Harris is gay?!!?!?! Sir Ian McKellen?!?!? AWESOME!! God damn Ian was so damn handsome
Gay guys can be mainly. Just like straight guys can be feminine. Cased closed
Gay men are more manlier then straight men because gay men aren't afraid to be themselves and who they are. Nothing is more manlier then self acceptance.
Yay to Manly Gay Men! :D
lol, obviously there are more effeminate gay guys than effeminate straight guys... but that doesn't mean anything. Im gay and Im pretty manly myself, cuz Im comfortable with my own gender and I don't feel like a girl on the inside (duh).
[srsly]
I like cute things tho', but having a teddy bear doesn't impede me to be a weight lifter
Oh. and sorry for my bad english (?)