Tuesday, 12 May 2009
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Honest Answers Needed From A Male Perspective
I need a man to talk to me honestly about women. You know, we women spend a lot of time talking about men! During some stages in our lives, it seems that we eat, drink and sleep them.
Whether we are married, divorced, widowed or single, the subject of men remains a hot topic throughout our life time. In fact it is so hot, that age does not defy the subject. In Atlanta, a woman in her 70's killed a man in his 80's, when she learned that he was seeing another senior citizen, who lived in the same senior citizen building! At 70 years old, you would think that one could qualify to be a poster child for stable relationships.
In this world today, there is no science associated with finding a soul mate. There are pretty women who can't find a man yet unattractive women have men, overweight women who have men, mentally challenged women who have men and loose women who have men.
Can you explain this?
We want to know, "What kind of woman would you take home to introduce to your mother"? We've had some dialog about f'buddies and their longevity but, what is it about a woman that makes her different from all of the others? What kind of woman makes you want to respect her, care about her, be with her and maybe even love her?
Then I want to know, what kind of woman makes you only want to have sex her? At what point do you make a determination, that a woman will be no more than a f'buddy? As women, we already know that men are not demeaned in society, when they are identified as f'buddies. This is a burden that only women carry.
Would you introduce your f'buddy to your mother or pastor? If not, why not?
From a man's point of view, "what kind of woman is wife worthy to you?" I ask these questions because some of us women are misinformed and confused about this whole man/woman relationship thing! Some women think that it doesn't matter if they sleep around, become f'buddies or date married men! Do you care?
Inquiring minds want to know! As men, what are you willing to share with us about the topics mentioned above?
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The women who I fall in love with are the ones who could potentially replace even my best friends. When things just work like that, everything just seems to come naturally.
the difference between a woman who means alot to me, and one who doesn't depends on whether she loves me unconditionally. that will be the woman i bring home to the parents. that's the one i will love, care for, and respect. the one who becomes my wife.
i could care less about other women's desires to sleep around or not, unless they're my friends.
it is pointless to introduce a "f'buddy" to my mom, pastor, or anyone else i know. a woman is considered a f'buddy if the only thing she has going for her are her looks, and she's horny all the time.
Try finding a man that you would want to come home to you instead of worrying about if mommy and daddy would approve, if your parents and friends love you then as long as you're happy they should be for you. As for finding what makes a man loyal well that has nothing to do with you or any other woman, it's all about the man, he is either a cheater or he isn't. I don't care who I am with I will not and have never cheated(though i have been cheated on and that bitch was out the door as soon as i found out). As for introducing an f'buddy to your pastor, as premarital sex is a sin, I doubt if you have a f'buddy you would be enough of a religious person to be going to church on a regular basis and be buddy buddy with the pastor. Hope I helped :)
F-buddy is any girl that will put out.
The take-home type is a bit more rare and complicated. She has to be smart enough to hold a conversation, but not too smart as to come across as a stuck-up know-it-all that alienates everyone else. She also has to look pretty, but not so hot that it will give your dad a boner, but cute enough so they won't be disappointed in you. Also, she must have a good family (with both parents still alive and together), but not too wealthy to make your family feel uncomfortable, but not too poor so they won't be disappointed in you.
i can go on, but then I'd have to charge.
What I'm looking for is a woman who is genuine and not snotty or fake. I've seen very good looking women with some of the worst personalities (they were so into their looks that they used them to get what they wanted from guys). I'm also looking for a woman who is strong on her own because honestly even if I do marry this girl I can't possibly be with her 24/7, especially being a future doctor. I'm also looking for a woman who is humble and isn't trying to be with me because of how much money I will make (most doctors don't make 6 figure salaries until after they finish several years of training after med school-and even then it depends on what type of doctor they become).
I agree with the second comment, a guy is either gonna cheat or not cheat, it usually will have nothing to do with the girl he's with, and everything to do with what kind of person he is. So...how to define a girl that is "wife worthy"...kind of hard really. First of all, physical attraction is a big part of it, I don't care what anyone says, it is. But past that, there just needs to be an emotional connection, we'd have to agree on certain things such as moral issues/religion, but if there's no connection it simply won't work out. Most times its inexplicable, it's impossible to explain WHY you love someone, you just do, it's a culmination of so many things it's impossible to put into words without cheapening it. You get butterflies in your stomach when you so much as hear their voice, and you want to spend every moment of every day with them, if I ever find a girl that makes me feel like that, and she feels the same way about me then that is the girl that is "wife worthy" for me (sorry for the sappyness).
Beauty was mentioned quite a bit there. Beauty will only, only, only get you so far.
From the TV show, 'How I met your Mother', They discuss the Hot vs. Crazy Scale.
Not only is this true, its quite funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zdGBL0PhJE
Both relationships have started because I thought the girl was hot, and then moved in to examine the girl's mind and personality. The last girl I dated lasted just over three years, and we lived together for two of those. We hit it off great, we had a good physical attraction, and a better intellectual/emotional connection. She was a sweet girl. This girl was Wife material!
But we moved in together. (Keep in mind we are both in college while dating). For two years, I cooked, I cleaned, I drove the car to get the groceries. She would leave the dirty dishs on the floor in front of the sofa. I slowly, but surely, went nuts. However, we could still go to the mall and have a fantastic time..
I studied Biomechanical engineering - she studied english literature, so it wasnt like she didnt have spare time.
Three months ago we mutually broke up because I had become miserable.
A successful relationship does require a happy sex life, a stimulating emotional/intellectual connection, but it must have respect for the other person. [see hot/crazy scale above]
honestly..it doesn't matter who you are or what ya look like...it matters how you carry yourself, how you view yourself inside. any woman that cares about who she is and is healthy being such..likes who she is and is comfortable with who she is we will look at a second, third, forth, and eventually a marrying time. try this simple thing..stand up straight, square your shoulders, chest out..not exaggerated k but decently out, smile and walk out of the house /apt ..walk down the street and honestly simply care about yourself as well as others.. think that, be that and then see how people see you... lol go ahead and dont believe but still give it an honest try...
That's a lot of questions >I'll answer what I can:
Firstly, I'm not the kind of guy who would have a F-buddy... so I can only base this off what I know of the situation.
I think a woman who I would introduce to my mom, and one I would marry would have to be someone I am totally into.
Let's not kid ourselves here, for men most attraction begins physically, not to say that we don't fall for unattractive women, but that if someone catches our eye, it does help along the process.
however, that only catches our eye, what will keep a decent guy around, and will make him respect a woman is the way she carries herself, and her personality. Is she funny? What does she want out of the relationship? What does she believe in? Things like that.
basically... a woman who is self-respecting and not too easy is one we will ultimately be looking for in a long-term relationship. One who isn't bothered about how we look, or jusge us by our abilities. A person who is always there, but who we can't afford to take for granted. Someone who isn't a pushover, but not an overly dominating woman.
Yeah... I think that sums it up.
F-buddies, one-night stands and the like result from the girl dressing like she wants to be one, then backing it up by acting and speaking the same. If the relationship never moves past the physical level, that's what you end up with.
That;s just my opinion anyway.
From they way you write this blog, you think it's a particular characteristic of oneself that can be changed in order to escape this fate. However it's not something you DO to get out of this trap. Sure, one can be less slutty, go to the gym and lose 15 pounds, or achieve a higher degree, it really doesn't matter. What does matter is that the girl know what her RANGE is. Yes RANGE, I believe girls who end up being the f'buddy are girls who over shoot. Most "girls" however fall for this trap, because they go out to bars and clubs and they all think they're hot shit, cause numerous guys will hit on them. However unless you're morbidly obese or heinously ugly they'll have scores of men hitting on you, only furthering this delusion.
For instance, I have a friend who i consider a 7. Yet she thinks she's a 8 or a 9, sometimes 10 when fully intoxicated, yet she'll chases guys who are 8 and 9s (physically and intellectually). Of course these guys are going to show interest, however they're never going to love her. She continually chases, and time after time gets dissapointed. She's still single and 32.
I've dated plenty of women that I would never take home to my mom, personally because we weren't equals, and yes guys date alot of women they don't consider their equals, if you're a f'buddy you're NOT an equal in my eyes [F'buddies i tell stories to my friends, relationships I don't]. However these girls were soo up in cloud nine they don't realize they were overshooting. Sure it's dishonest to lead them on but hey it's dating, all fun and games. Life is tough get over it. But these girls knew what they were doing, they probably passed over on some douchebag who would "treat them right" in order to be with me. Girls NEVER look at this perspective, they always complain about the asshole who jerks them around. Therefore, I say THEY DESERVE what they get.
It's not about settling for something less, it's more about self evaluation of oneself.
Perhaps the next time a girl wonders why she's continually turned into a f'buddy maybe they should look back at themselves and realize that they shouldn't over shoot.
Men aren't demeaned for being f-buddies? LOL.
What a great post!.. I'm sure other women would really appreciate honest perspectives from men as well
@coolmonkey@xanga - really? you've got a very narrow view of what a good woman is.
@RazorBladeParade@xanga - for real. slutty guys may be praised by other guys, but they are certainly demeaned by decent women.
i'm glad so many guys commented though. :)
i'll start off by saying this... just be yourself. if you spend your time trying to be what you think men want, you'll never find someone to love you. when you meet someone special you just know. more often than not you'll be surprised that the person you fall for is nothing like the ''type'' of person you thought you would fall for, if that makes any sense. real men aren't out looking for the ''next piece of ass'', they want that relationship with someone who makes waking up each day worth it. the problem is that you can't predict when that is going to happen, or who with, so men go play the field until they find someone who really makes them wanna settle down. every person is different so what one man is looking for might be totally different than what another man is looking for. because of that, there really isn't a concrete answer to any of your questions. trying to explain what men want is like trying to explain why anyone would like brittany spears, because its beyond human comprehension and understanding.
great responses
There are many approaches to dealing with rejection depending on who it is coming from. For starters-we need to change some common beliefs that we might have.
independent and hot woman are intimidating and seen as snobby by insecure macho men, so they avoid that?
they want tina fey, not jessica alba. whatever tina fey does, just copy her, and guys will want to propose to you! lol but don't ever answer them right away, make them crawl on their knees begging you, jerk them around by their ears, and reject them with attitude
they love that feistyness, not the slutty kind of demeanor, but the lovable type perhaps.
bullshit.
there are no pretty women that can't find a man. period.
they can have PLENTY of men. but they are probably ludicrously picky.
and it all boils down to something like that - are you trying to play in a league you don't belong in?
if you aim a level lower, it's easy pickin's. if you aim at your level, you have even odds. if you aim a level higher, it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, you're in for not only a rough time of it but a life of heartache after.
you're attempting to write checks your ass can't cash and that will eventually catch up with you... that's why it makes no sense trying to be something you are not - you won't be able to keep it up and either you'll snap or the other will.
the notions of "levels" and "value" is indeed different for men than it is for women. what men value is blatantly obvious unless you're an idiot.
what women value is different... but that hierarchy of rating men still exists.
you ask that pretty woman what she wants in a man and if you cut out 9/10ths of the bullshit and get at what she's REALLY looking for, you'll understand why she can't find someone. she's aiming too high.
as for the fat chicks, what kinda guy does she have? likely it will be obvious that either he's using her as a stepping stone or transition p*ssy or there's something that puts him at a lower rung (if he's not out and out, dead obviously of a lower rung). and there are overweight chicks that can be sexy... i'm not talking out and out obese but a bit overweight... especially if she's voluptuous, busty and curvy.
dumb chicks - if she's hot, there's your answer. you think it's hard for a hot dumb chick to find guys?!
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as for what you bring home to your parents, as long as it's not obvious that she works in the sex industry (even though she does), she's good to go.... (and many times even if it is obvious).
especially for women, this shit is not rocket science. just be hot.
jin
The take home girl is laid back but not to the point of if you leave i wouldnt remember your name in a week.She has confidience and an attitude that says he's mine f'off.she looks good in everything but even better in one of my shirts or nothing.No matter how bad things look or are she stand beside you supporting you not telling you its your fault. always into trying new thing in every aspect.Yes sex matters any guy who says it doesnt probly hasnt had a long relationship or never been laid.
You dont ever fuck with another mans woman unless he's ok with it.f'buddies all mine i had new my family and friends on the way to the room i introduced them afterward we might watch a movie or go our different ways.
the whitch one do i want to have sex with thats easy whats my alchol content.
beer- 5'4'' any color hair and eyes between 95 to115lbs
vodka-4'9'' any color hair and eyes between 116 to 125lbs
tequilla-4'9'' any color hair and eyes between 125 to 140.
anything i can drink to get drunk-3'tall bald blind 290 lbs prttey much anything with a split. (but luckly i have friend who drag me out before that happens)
Looks are important. I wont lie. I have to be physically attracted to the person, but I prefer a "cute" or "elegant" quality in a long term partner rather than "hotness". The innocence and elegance go along with the personality and work together. If, as a man, you cant see your partner beyond their physical description, then its likely that neither is right for the other.
Looking at women who are trying to be "hot", I think physical attraction and sex drives are more prominent in the initial courting. If after a few months a serious personal bond has not developed, this person is clearly not a good match and not worthy of being taken home.
And I definitely dont think that a F-Buddy can evolve into a loving relationship. I'm definitely of the opinion that having many partners erodes the perception of love and should be avoided. I'm traditional. One of those annoying people... Getting in to a loving relationship for the long run requires a much more well-rounded and personal starting point than just looking for sex.
As has already been stated, I would agree that a potential marriage candidate must be the equivalent or better than the guy's best friend. Shared interests and similar personalities. Of course, in this, each and every person is different and will look for different things out of a potential marriage, but if assuming that they are looking for "true love", then I think that all of these things are necessary.
just watch yes man
I like girls who have a good level of self-respect. Someone who doesn't just crawl into bed with anybody just because she is lonely. Somebody who has her own views and is different from other women, but not so different that makes her odd. Honestly, I don't really care how attractive they are as long they give they understand and care about others. If i had to live 5 years with someone who don't have any of these qualities, I might actually question whether this is someone I can pick up
anywhere. Of course the looks (boobs included) are a bonus, who wouldn't want to wake up with a sleeping beauty sleeping right beside him.
I'm pretty picky when it comes to girlfriends. She doesn't have to be perfect...just close to it. F buddies are mainly there for the f. Unless I somehow father a child with her, I'm obligated to take care of the kid with her. Until then, the only thing I would care about is the f part to gratify some pleasures. As for introducing to the parents, I would obviously be introducing someone special whom I took time and effort to find.
It's like the saying goes...something about fish in the sea (I forgot). But the fact is, I don't want an ordinary bass, tuna, or halibut. What I'm looking for is the rainbow fish.
its not that pretty women cant find men.
theyre either single because they refuse to lower their standards or because they just ended things with whoever.
For starters I just got out of a year long engagement with a woman I would still marry. She up and decided she wanted to date around for a little while and whatever else, so it ended.
Apart from how amazing she made me feel and her beauty, why I asked her to marry me was this. Before we even started dating we had a talk about what we wanted in our lives. We wanted a lot of the same things and we shared the same views about a lot of things like religion, family, love.
I knew I was going to marry her after a couple weeks. It want just that things were new and exciting, she made everything better. It took her a little while to warm up to me, but when she did it was like something just clicked. I don't know how to explain it but it was the best feeling Ive had in my life. When I looked at her I saw her as something more, she could be my wife, the mother of my children, my best friend. Her smile melted my heart and cut right to the core of me.
So not long afterward I asked her to marry me and she said yes. Every day got better, even the most mundane things were a pleasure with her. She made me want to be the man I knew that once day I would become. I looked in her eyes and I knew that I was loved.
I dont think I will ever find anyone like her again.
As for a woman you want to only have sex with, she would most likely not have anyhting to offer you apart from sex. When you can tell that it wont go anywhere but they still want to see you then its probably just for sex. This would be a bar hook up relationship I guess. ( never had one) Sometimes you stick around just because you have nothing better to do.
@BranmacFeabhail@xanga - no one asked for your opinion. are you a guy? if not, please stay quiet and let the men answer the question posed directly to them.