I was recently reading about
Anne Heche giving birth to
her second child with former Men in Trees co-star
James Tupper.
Granted I don't keep up to speed on my Anne Heche news too well, but I always think of her as dating
Ellen, even though the E-train got hitched to
Portia de Rossi. I guess she decided to
switch teams. She also named her kid Atlas, which I think is actually kind of an awesome name.
But let's get back to switching teams. At a certain unnamed New England Liberal Arts institution that I may or may not have attended, there was a significant population of gay, lesbian, and bisexual individuals (I won't get into gender neutral as I think that, while linked, is a whole separate debate). Such is probably the case on many a college campus, but I feel as if the small Liberal Arts moniker attracts it all the more.
A lot of people see college as the perfect time to experiment with these other routes outside the accepted norm of heterosexuality, if not finally identify with the sexual preference they've kept closeted priorly from social pressures.
I can understand the latter, but not really the confusion of the former. I am sure there are those people that are legitimately confused sexually, but there were also those people for whom sexuality appeared to be just a trend.
And, at least personally, excepting Heche, I really only ever hear of heterosexuals coming out as homosexuals, and not vice versa. That, however, is likely due to existing social norms and I wonder if that will change with the growing acceptance of homosexuality.
Do you think people are born with gay, lesbian, heterosexual, or bisexual feelings and it is just a question of when an individual chooses to accept them? For those who have been long-time heteros and switch teams, and vice-versa, is it simply the end of a long-term denial?
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I call myself bisexual because I prefer guys, but I've also had some pretty intense crushes on girls and I could totally see myself ending up with one. A lot of girls are "bisexual" because guys/boyfriends find it hot, and that really bothers me. "Bi-curious" is the most popular sexuality trend with most teen girls these days, and it's good that they experiment but itundermines the legitimacy of those who are actually bisexual.
I do not think that those who are honestly homosexual are going through a phase. I believe that you're born with it and you live with it.
HOWEVER. Sadly enough, being gay and bi has become a trend among highschoolers, especially those of the rock/emo/scene/punk group. Its one of the most annoying things to hit and it makes those who are actually going through the difficult time of finding themselves look bad.
I remember I commented on a youtube video for the "I kissed a girl" song and all the kids were starting their comments with "Im not gay but..." or "Im gay and this..." so I made the comment about how probably 70 percent of them were just highschool girls calling themselves gay/bi or whatever because they think its cool or hot and they want to come off as liberal and freespirited. I got so many angry replies but Im holding to my word. 70% of the gay/bi girls you find in highschool are just saying it for their image. I dont think the number is as high for guys but Im sure they're there too.
did Anne Heche ever "come out" as being straight? I thought she was bi.
Anyhow... these topic has been flogged to death on xanga... but personally i think there exists all types. Some are gay, some might be gay, some like to experiment, some find out later in life, some find out sooner, some are born gay, some are conditioned to be gay, some are both... anything more specific than that is just making generalities that don't always work for everyone.
All I know is that I was born sexually attracted to women 95 and older. Can we just drop this discussion?
@ScarletMoth@xanga - well supposedly she ended it with saying she found out she wasn't attracted to girls. So I'm guessing its the same thing. However I wouldn't know since I don't really follow her.
i'm going through a phase of uncertainty. i don't know if i'm bi or not...but i am attracted to hot girls. maybe i'm just bi-curious?
@thinkin_up_dreams@xanga - That bugs me sooo much too! If you're actually experimenting then fine, but don't pretend to be so you can get attention. It's like pretending you're depressed or something.
Do you think people are born with gay, lesbian, heterosexual, or
bisexual feelings and it is just a question of when an individual
chooses to accept them? For those who have been long-time heteros and
switch teams, and vice-versa, is it simply the end of a long-term
denial?
Shit, really good questions. I can't answer the second one.
To the first one, its really hard to say. My gut instinct tells me it's more of a question of self-discovery as well as trial and error. Fastest way to find out what you are is to dive in head-first I believe. Not all people have gay/bi/lesbian feelings, but some might and are not sure if it's what they really want, or if they're just going through a sexually frustrated/confused phase in life.
@thinkin_up_dreams@xanga - 70%? I'd say closer to 95%. l0l.
This is completely off subject of the blog, but I just want to say that another "trend" that really bothers me is the atheism trend. I'm agnostic, so I don't dislike it because it's "against God" or something like that... I dislike it because I just dislike people pretending to be someone they're not.
@abh816@xanga - Wait, there's an atheism trend? REALLY. I have not noticed this. That is so entertaining to me.
@abh816@xanga - I dont see an atheist trend. I see more of an immaturity one. An example would be on an ash Wednesday (a couple years back) there was a kid who walked around with the upside down crosses drawn on his arms and head and he was all "Yea I went to a --i don't remember but it was a religious picnic thingy-- like this!" and I asked him "why?" and he said "Because I dont believe in god." and I said "That means you're atheist, not an asshole. Get your shit straight."
Maybe the atheism trend is just where I used to live... I lived right in the middle of the bible belt. I guess that's just their way to rebel, since atheism is frowned upon so much in that area.
We had a discussion about this in my Philosophy 102 class. I believe everyone is born the way they are, but parents or society can prevent them from acting the way that they want. Your sexuality shouldn't be a freaking "trend," and it really irks me to know that it has turned into a trend.
Who decided that it was "normal" to be heterosexual, and wrong or different to be homosexual? Screw the social norm. I'm not homosexual or bisexual, but it still bothers me.
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@thinkin_up_dreams@xanga @abh816@xanga - - I'm a lesbian in high school and i'm sure as hell not saying it for my image. People don't understand. If you knew what some people were going through, me included, you wouldn't think that it was just for their "image."
Most girls have an inner bi-sexual in them. Men are black and white. We don't go through "phases."
@kelly122192@xanga - I didn't say 100%, did I? Calm down.
@abh816@xanga - I'm pretty calm. I'm just saying that not "95%" of the people do it for an image.
@kelly122192@xanga - okay? Good for you. But who the hell said everyone was saying it for their image?
Grow the fuck up and learn to listen to an argument instead of blowing up.
@thinkin_up_dreams@xanga - Honestly, I didn't blow up at all. I just made a statement. I just don't understand why people would do it for their image, and I know people do do it for that reason, because it's a hard thing to do. I just don't like the bad rap that high school lesbian girls get. Because it's a hard thing to go through already, especially when there are people thinking that you're being a lesbian just for the image.
@kelly122192@xanga - well isnt that what I said? Im sure it says it right there in my first comment that they're created a bad image for people who are honestly gay and making it harder for them to find themselves.
It sounds a lot like blowing up when you're respond to me saying "Im a lesbian and Im sure as hell not doing it for my image. people dont understand"
That sounds a lot like jumping on the angry train.
I have no idea how old you are but you seem older so Im guessing you're prolly a senior or at least a junior in HS. around that point people start maturing enough to admit they're just straight, but think of all the 9th and 10th graders who are stupid enough to think that calling themselves Bi and making out with other girls/boys makes them look hot?
A LOT.
the fact that so many women(what is it, 75%? and I count myself in that, aside from the fact that I've had real crushes on girls most of my life) have a lesbian experience in college is good backup for the fact that homosexuality is a choice.
@thinkin_up_dreams@xanga - I didn't mean it to sound angry. I'm not angry...i'm sad. And my first comment was partially for that other girl too. But yeah, people that are just pretending to be gay do make it harder for us. And yes I know, a decent amount of people do it. And it honestly makes me feel like shit.
Sorry to make you upset...I didn't mean to.
i believe theyre born with it!